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[satyenpoojary]

No one wants a v4

[arn]

satyenpoojary, on 24 May 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

No one wants a v4

Until you just HEAR one. Then you are hooked. And V4s wake up a lot earlier than 7 and 8K

[satyenpoojary]

I for one would love a V4! But then a twin is SO much more parctical!
I think a twin is what it could finally end up with... and I certainly dont want a big bored CB300!

CBF600 was touted to have passed the homoglation... so not sure on how things would end up commercially

CBF125 - 75k
CBR150R - 1.2L
CBR250R - 2.25L

CBR400R - ???

CBF600 ~ 5.5L

[arn]

Problem with the big bikes is - except for a handful of places (select dual carriageways, not even all of them), even cruising at 120 is iffy (such as say NH17), and even the 400s would not be able to use their potential, let alone the 600s. I know I cannot max out the 250 anywhere on the Goa road. A lot of touring is at low rpm, and the V4 can handle that a lot better, unlike an I4

I agree about the single 300 - no ways! I doubt that would be on the cards, probably something like a "super nighthawk" or CB400N (with fairing) instead

PS: CBR250R - 2.25???

[satyenpoojary]

Hasnt the price been hiked post the budget announcement. I read somewhere that 2.25L OTR in mumbai (ABS)

[rahul_rn]

Just took a cbr test ride without reason here in belgaum and the price is still 1.68 and 1.97..

[pulsurge]

No one likes the I4 here   Am all in for the the CBF600 if it'll be OTR 5.5L- though the lesser the better. Will have to work really hard for it. Though everybody's right on the practicality factor- but then however good a twin, it can never come close to that typical hum/scream of an I4.

Its an emotional choice rather- have always dreamt of owning a I4 and about riding in city- my CBR will always be there. The I4 will only be for highway bliss.

[rahul_rn]

The cbf600 can be priced very well if Honda wants but if they bring here too many products then the problem of numbers arises..
250, 400, 600 if all differ with an average of lakh or so then not all will sell in good numbers.. 250 itself is good enough is what i feel but still we crave for more..
Indian roads and traffic condition don't allow much in the top end as doc pointed out even doing 120 is also not possible nor do we have tracks to do track day's..
Riding an 600 in traffic and worrying every second about an a** bumping in into you is another problem..

[pulsurge]

rahul_rn, on 25 May 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

Indian roads and traffic condition don't allow much in the top end as doc pointed out even doing 120 is also not possible nor do we have tracks to do track day's..

You have been to Belgaum right? How did you find the roads? Can't do 120 on that stretch?

Aren't these stretches good enough? There are lot of places where you can't even go at 100, then why even a 250. A 150cc sounds more practical.

[rahul_rn]

Well i myself did 120 but the thing is every moment you have a thought in mind what if there is an pot hole or some idiot tel-porting right in front of you out of no where and I meant crusing at that speed not just touching it for a few seconds..

[pulsurge]

Idiots are everywhere...you just have to be that extra cautious. An idiot can come right in front of you at 60 also- does that mean you shouldn't be riding at 60?

[rahul_rn]

150 is good but still sometimes feels out of breath.. And those roads you can hit 300 i agree to that hands down but as i said you will always be having a thought in your mind..
And someone showing up at 60 it a million x better then someone showing up at 120..
What i am saying is 99% of the time we wont be doing those speeds.. Well then again you may if you are named arn..

[Silver Phantom]

People who are able to cruise at 150+kmph are not superhumans, but only Cautious riders who have learnt to broaden their peripheral vision, and notice minor changes in the atmosphere / environment.. also their ears are tuned to listen to minor changes in the surroundings. while trying to overtake a behemoth, a glance at the front tires positions tell if he is going to take a turn, or noticing the road ahead from under his chassis, shows if there is anyone ahead of him, and will he take a abrubt turn to avoid any untoward incident, and if you were him, where will you turn, and how will that affect your travel path...
A tree at the border of the road shakes in an uneven manner seperate from the manner the surrounding trees are waving.. meaning can be that an animal is ready to teleport onto the road, or a drunk B@**@*D is gonna appear in front of you...

These calculations are done by the brain at lighting speeds, and you take your judgement call based on these calculations. along with that you also need to check your own surroundings that on the judgement call you make, you are not gonna be the @$$hole for someone else......

Now couple these heightened senses, and put in a bike with better control and speed, and the chances of such bikes surviving in this market seem greater... there will always be Chappal-Dhari Sadak Chaap Rossis, but they will be asses on no matter what vehicle they ride.

[pulsurge]

^^^Kya khoob kahi CV Saab! You seem to be a favourite student of Professor Viru Sahastrabuddhe

[rahul_rn]

Having senses of the best animals on the planet might not help at times.. The problem that arrives with speed is getting rid of that speed, fast and safely.. Hard braking is something many people have issues including me for most of the bikes i am sure that apart from v2 there isn't a bike too gr8 at it including the cbr, even though havent braked hard on it but have a hunch it isn't perfect.. Riding is as much of a bike as much of rider.. I am not saying its impossible to achieve the max of a vehicle, i am saying it is not possible for most of the time..