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#151 sheelpriye

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 01:19 PM

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As far as keeping business commitments is concerned, in my family business, we have a client who has not paid us 90% of the payment he was supposed to. The payment is big enough to get a german luxury sedan. Even then, the lawyer says it could take years to get the money although their checks have bounced which is a criminal offence. So think before you file for a case. It won't be easy.

Nowadays, the consumer forum is pretty strict, as well as the courts.

A couple of days back, someone had to pay twice the amount of the cheque issued by him as the cheque bounced.

Don't leave them, they don't deserve any sympathy. I believe there are on-line portals high-lighting the same. Have you approached an advocate to inquire about the next legal course of action?
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 01:30 PM

sheelpriye said:

Nowadays, the consumer forum is pretty strict, as well as the courts.

A couple of days back, someone had to pay twice the amount of the cheque issued by him as the cheque bounced.

Don't leave them, they don't deserve any sympathy. I believe there are on-line portals high-lighting the same. Have you approached an advocate to inquire about the next legal course of action?

Yes, I have already spoken to a thoroughly competent guy who specializes in consumer court. I will have the text cleared by him first before writing to them, which I can do only tonight as until I checked the bike today, I did not know the full extent of the theft.

Having an employee get up to monkey business with some client's property behind your back is one thing,  falsifying a log to cover up is practically an admission of your own participation.

@ Satyen: I'll probably be starting the new thead tomorrow after getting the draft approved by the lawyer. I do not need to fabricate any stories, GATI has been kind enough to give me enough explosive material themselves, detonator attached.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 01:50 PM

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Having an employee get up to monkey business with some client's property behind your back is one thing,  falsifying a log to cover up is practically an admission of your own participation.

@ Satyen: I'll probably be starting the new thead tomorrow after getting the draft approved by the lawyer. I do not need to fabricate any stories, GATI has been kind enough to give me enough explosive material themselves, detonator attached.

They have dig up their own grave, it seems that since time immemorial they have been practicing this but either no one took notice or was least bothered pursuing the same.
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#154 razorBlades

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 11:43 PM

OMG GATI is crazzy indeed! I hate them aswell!

When we went for our Bhutan ride, there were no other options other than GATI (silliguri) from Mumbai to transport the bike! They broke my bike's visor, scratches everywhere (which are still there), they placed something heavy on my bike which started damaging my supsension and the swingarm and what not!

I asked them to give an explanation to all this but my zero Hindi skills made me to just pick my bike and ride! No point having a bad day at the start of the long trip! there were few others with me and their bikes were untouched! I just considered it as my bad luck and left it at that moment!

later went the tvs svc and explained them the situation and asked them to fix.. they kindly apologized to me and told to come pick up the bike after an hour. They charged me just for the broken visor which was 450 bucks factory price! They did a full service, changed the swing arm bushes and fixed a lot of stuff. they said, welcome to our state and that they apologized again for what happened at the GATI office and wished me good luck for the ride ahead. I thanked them for their hospitality and thought to myself "When one door closes another opens" :D

phew! a big post indeed.. sorry doc for hijacking your thread :D just felt like bursting out about GATI!

And one question to you doc, how did you trust those guys at the garage to send you the bike back? I am very afraid to do that! :eek:
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 11:52 PM

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how did you trust those guys at the garage to send you the bike back? I am very afraid to do that! :eek:

The bike was already bruised and had suffered multiple injuries by then.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 12:15 AM

sheelpriye said:

The bike was already bruised and had suffered multiple injuries by then.

yeah but engine and lot other usable parts are still there right? :eek: How can we trust a stranger in the current world! I once got my tyre puncture and I was stuck at a chai shop. He told me to keep the bike at the shop and go fetch the puncture walla who was like a km away! I did not want to risk my bike getting stolen so pushed her all the way! The chai walla felt rude when I left. It just that we cant find the good from the bad eh?
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 01:31 AM

Enough aboout GATI, for the time being, there will be a different thread focussed on them started soon, and you will soon see that what you have read here about them are not the only stunts they have tried to pull off.

I want to give some background on the people I was dealing with in Manali. Initially, of course, I did not know anybody there, and in spite of some efforts, there did not seem to any motoroid with decent contacts. Luckily, when I went there in June, Amit got me in touch with somebody, and through him, got in touch with Ravi Thakur from Himalayan Caravan Adventure, an agency that organises tours, treks, bookings, et al.

This was important for me as I needed a RELIABLE local mechanic who would swap the off road tyres for street ones at Manali. Ravi took me to Anu motors, one of the largest Enfield rental outfits in the whole area, who has a fleet of at least 40 bullet 500s, a well equipped workshop and the mechanics to maintain that fleet after the bikes are misused by tourists.

With both Himalayan Caravan and Anu Garage, there are plenty of situations where people (their clients) need to keep luggage at their premises when they go on tours - and you can bet that nothing gets touched, much less opened. In fact when the accident damaged bike came in , there was still stuff in the now lidless sidebox,  and the bike was parked outside, but the mechs there told me not to bother about getting the stuff in as "nothing gets stolen here", and thats the fact there. The bike was parked outside for a half a day before I could return from the hospital and everything was right there, complete with  undisturbed Rohtang sand on top.

I had got quite friendly with the mechs there too, and most competent mechs develop a rapport with somebody who is not frightened to get his hands dirty while his bike is being worked on. I was able to help them some as well as they were unfamiliar with the ZMA, though they could probably assemble a bullet drunk and blindfolded with hands tied behind them, they are that good. Plus falling off the mountain and coming out scratchless makes you a bit of a celebrity with them :eek:

Well, as you might be knowing I spent 3 days in Manali the first time round waiting for the roads to clear (they cleared a week after I cut my losses and left) and during this time I was in absolutely no mood for sightseeing/shopping - I spent my time with Ravi in his office and we built a good personal rapport with each other. He very kindly actually offered to keep the off road tyres and the bag containing the thermals in his office, saving me the expense of shipping them to and fro again from Mumbai to manali. After the accident, he again very kindly volunteered to ship the bike and the luggage back via DTDC as he knew the people there.

Unfortunately, thats where things began to unravel, as he got some bookings and had to leave for a one week hike out of mobile coverage, so could not follow up personally, he had to rely on Mr Sunil Kumar, his assistant, who did not have his contacts. It turned out that DTDC would charge a ridiculous 19000 odd to transport the bike, more than a Kullu Mumbai air ticket. It was also difficult to get a transporter as the CWG was on - and nobody he could get in touch with wanted to go anywhere near Delhi. That meant that we would have to use GATI again - and to use GATI a vehicle would have to be hired to get the stuff to Mandi first.

Mr Sunil actually managed all that and spent an entire day getting the bike to the GATI office and completing the formalities. To top it all up, he paid the shortfall out of his own pocket prior to my reimbursing him, as the extra transport charges to mandi were not in the equation when I left him enough money for what I thought it would cost to ship my stuff.

So you can se here that these people were defnitely not strangers, and moreover, friends I could trust. Even the manager of the GATI franchise at Mandi - he actually offered me lunch with him while I was waiting for the bike on the inward journey, which I was a bit uncomfortable about accepting. This gentleman was also honest enough to tell me that it would take a little more than the usual time to ship to Mumbai as he wanted to ensure that there was enough luggage to prevent the bike from toppling in the transport to Ambala. This is another guy I would trust, unfortunately, most of GATI's other employees restore the average.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 02:05 AM

wow, that is exactly what I wanted to read doc! Some people are really really great and helpful! I have had my experience meeting those rare bred people! But once I had a very bad experience so that's why I wanted to know your situation. Thanks for that doc!

And btw when is the next run decided?
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 10:18 PM

The medical setup in Manali, or where you should go if you get injured!

Manali is a small town with a primary health center which has the possibility of being upgraded soon  because of an ever increasing flow of low paying customers :hail: . The nearest district hospital is in Kullu. The only "properly" equipped hospital in Manali is the Lady Willingdon Hospital, it also has a large trained staff.

However, I went to the PHC as there did not seem to be much need to seek extensive care. There I had the pleasure of meeting Dr Rajkumar who as I have already mentioned has seen before the antics we bikers get up to, and his senior officer, Dr Balbir Singh.

The PHC is well enough equipped to take care of minor trauma type injuries, and being govt run, there will always be an adherence to minimum standards. Because of the vast numbers and variety of patients, most doctors working in them for some time are capable of taking care of patients from their toenails to their brains efficiently.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 02:16 AM

Sorry to hear about this Doc. This is unacceptable and not done! They have to fix this at their cost! I'm glad you have a competent lawyer to help push this through to the consumer court if needed. GATI has proven to be a nightmare for you. But I hope that you are able to escalate this to some Senior personnel from GATI and get this matter resolved ASAP!
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